Wouter Cx

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I'm a software developer for an insurance company in the Netherlands.

String comparison update

This morning I finally managed to add equality tests to WikiTalk. This means you can compare strings (as well as other things) to see if they match. See the StringDemo for some examples.

Hello

I read that you were going to make a "detailed" instruction sheet for installing the Upload Script. I was wondering how this was coming, or if you could help me make mine work. I can't seem to get it to work.

Hello

Do you know how to program in WikiTalk? I have some things I want to do but cannot figure out how. Here is my site: http://www.dotnetinfluencers.org. This page have a ToDo on it that I need to learn more WikiTalk to be able to do: http://www.dotnetinfluencers.org/default.aspx/Wiki.ListOfDotNetToolVendors Thanks in advance if you can help. -- MikeSchinkel [2004-07-19]

Answer1

I'm working on learning the language... But to answer your question: it seems to me that you're trying to do things that you would normally do with a database behind your website. It means Wiki has to do a text-search through all .Wiki files with every execution of your page. That's kind of slow. Anyway, it's a challenge for me, I understand your goal, I'll see if I can do it. I will be testing here -- WouterCX [2004-07-19 6:00 AM]

Answer2

It's currently impossible I think. There's no "If-then" as far as I can see, in combination with a string compare ability. The only thing I could do was sort on the "ToolVendorStatus", but that doesn't help much, since "merged" and "active" have the same length. See the PlayPage , example 4. Example 5 is the same as example 4, except it shows the status. -- WouterCX [2004-07-19 08:34 AM]

Thanks for trying. I noticed you looked at my PlayPage -- Yes, you are right I want to do something like a database. This is where I see a Wiki being able to have huge power, i.e. if we can use it like a free-form database to get a community to evolve a schema and also collect data at the same time. DavidOrnstein said FlexWiki's caching is good so maybe I don't have to have database to do this. The other option is to modify FlexWiki to use a database and add such features. As for being impossible, I will have to accept only that it is "maybe currently" impossible! WikiTalk really needs to be able to compare if it is going to be generally useful for anything. Maybe it is time for me to bug David... -- MikeSchinkel

Mike, I think WikiTalk is not yet "mature". I think it's in a state now that it is a good way of making a dynamic UI for your site (changing the borders). And to do some other things. But it can't be named a real "Language" if it doesn't have "if-then-else" or string-comparison. You mentioned that DavidOrnstein said FlexWiki's caching is good. But if I open the WikiTalkObjectReference page (which has a few WikiTalk lines), it takes ages to load. I think David is busy enough already.. Bug David? If you read his blog at microsoft... -- WouterCX

-- MikeSchinkel [2004-07-19]

Note that you do not need (or want) to enclose WikiNames in square brackets. You've done this, e.g., on CrossBrowserFlexWiki. Simply type the name. -- StuartCelarier, 5 August 2004

Stuart, I hate the "WikiNames" concept without square brackets, since it converts every wiki111 word into a Wiki link. I don't want that. Because some text that I copy from other sources that I Wikify gets these nasty Wiki links, where I don't want them to appear. -- WouterCX [2004-08-24]

Question: You seem to have a better understanding of WikiTalk than anyone else I've seen. I'm just wondering where you got it from? I'd really like to understand this from your _NormalBorders file:

 "||{T-}",
 "'''Search'''", 
 "||",
 Newline, 
 "||{+}",

But man is that tough to work with. Help please? -- JustinCollum, 24 Aug 04

Answer: Found an explanation of all this stuff here: TableFormattingRules -- JustinCollum, 27 Aug 04

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